tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post587974205223639437..comments2023-10-02T05:11:38.281-07:00Comments on HoloNet Entertainment Daily: Jedi vs. Sith CommentaryAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12436504842091418119noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-58799493987229892262012-10-01T14:00:39.001-07:002012-10-01T14:00:39.001-07:00OOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKK!!! I will consider the debate ov...OOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKK!!! I will consider the debate over. <br /><br />Darth Talon, Signing out!Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-74253879388007511132012-09-06T11:14:12.265-07:002012-09-06T11:14:12.265-07:00wow i'm having a really nice conversation by m...wow i'm having a really nice conversation by myself! :) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! hey i just met you and this is crazy...<br /><br /> BUT I'M A SITH LORD AND I'M<br /> CONVERTING YOU,MAYBE!!!!!!!<br /><br />ha! couldn't help myself...Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-44019068897602173712012-09-05T11:59:15.485-07:002012-09-05T11:59:15.485-07:00have you finished Hard Contact yet? if not, what j...have you finished Hard Contact yet? if not, what just happened? Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-52088114340062282922012-08-31T06:59:10.569-07:002012-08-31T06:59:10.569-07:00did you know that at celebration 6 there will be a...did you know that at celebration 6 there will be a painting for sale of Darth Talon and Aayla Secura fighting! i sooooo wanna go!Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-69982023453262634232012-08-31T02:05:18.118-07:002012-08-31T02:05:18.118-07:00*cough* I didn't know what tchun-tchin are, b...*cough* I didn't know what tchun-tchin are, but I looked it up. I had never heard them referred to as that before. =PBuruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-12864368107117375022012-08-30T09:15:39.478-07:002012-08-30T09:15:39.478-07:00i'm not an expert but thanks! anydoodles, no t...i'm not an expert but thanks! anydoodles, no that is not game graphics. female twi'leks really do have different ears! to tell you the truth, i don't know why but i know that they do. BTW i'm glad that you know what lekku are. if you didn't i would have to facepalm!:) do you know what tchun-tchin are?Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-85718257489979851282012-08-30T00:38:14.088-07:002012-08-30T00:38:14.088-07:00Since you're the closest thing to a Twi'le...Since you're the closest thing to a Twi'lek expert I know, maybe you could answer my question. At least in the videogame I play (Star Wars: The Old Republic), all of the female Twi'lek ears are these weird cone things. Male Twi'leks have human-like ears, so I was wondering if it's just the game graphics or if female Twi'leks actually have different ears. And I'm not talking about their lekku--I know what those are.Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-53301110110266360142012-08-29T07:05:22.485-07:002012-08-29T07:05:22.485-07:00i know right! k Satele Shan comes insanely close. ...i know right! k Satele Shan comes insanely close. can you believe it that Edessa doesn't like her? she says that she's a coward cause in ROTS you see a shot where she turns around, sees the guns aimed at her then turns around again. Eddy claims that she was going to run. i for one know that i would run...<br /><br />cool! me and my bro are trying to come up with our own saber form. not goin so well. yet.Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-29180163560853569182012-08-28T22:38:02.626-07:002012-08-28T22:38:02.626-07:00bwahahaaaa. Aayla rocks, especially on SWBII. By...bwahahaaaa. Aayla rocks, especially on SWBII. By far the best Jedi ever...<br /><br />I looked up Satele Shan, but it doesn't say her fighting style. I would assume it's Makashi, since she does a lot of lightsaber to lightsaber combat.Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-90127556658117667202012-08-28T08:22:03.739-07:002012-08-28T08:22:03.739-07:00Aaylaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! i LOVE twi'leks!...Aaylaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! i LOVE twi'leks! i LOVE Aayla! i LOVE Darth Talon! <br /><br />ha! epicness! you know if that's what Satele Shan uses? i'm just assuming so but i dunno.<br /><br />very cool. extremely awesome. INCREDIBLY EPIC!Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-69209591780853077802012-08-28T05:33:33.978-07:002012-08-28T05:33:33.978-07:00Djem So is Form V, also known as The Way of the Kr...Djem So is Form V, also known as The Way of the Krayt Dragon. It emphasizes power attacks, along with defense immediately followed by counter-attacks. It's seen as a very aggressive fighting style, most notably practiced by Anakin Skywalker, Aayla Secura, Galen Marek and more. <br /><br />Jar'Kai is the practice of using dual blades in battle. It actually has a specific history, but the Jedi and Sith use it as a blanket term for all dual lightsaber wielding. <br /><br />Talon sounds cool. I don't really know who Cade is either...my knowledge of the Skywalker family ends with Ben, whom I know only a little about...Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-83651573893005516792012-08-27T07:41:13.198-07:002012-08-27T07:41:13.198-07:00Djem So? what's that? i think i know what Jar ...Djem So? what's that? i think i know what Jar Kai is. that's what Darth Maul uses, right? <br /><br />is. Darth Talon is a member of the order of the One Sith. (this is after the original trilogy i think.) anywho, she is one of Darth Krayt's Hands, his personal assassins. she shares the role of hand first with Darth Nihl who was later replaced with Darth Stryfe who later died. Nihl took over the position once again. then Krayt died leaving the order in chaos. Darth Nihl then became the new Dark Lord. Talon is a lethan twi'lek whose red skin is literally coated in black sith tattoos. like all sith her eyes are yellow. she is 31. her original name was Talon'kai. she is adept at the use of various force maneuvers, including force lightning and rumor has it that she may have a rare ability for force concealment. like most sith in that order, her saber was crafted to resemble a particular type of coral, the saber's crystal is visible. Darth Talon was fiercely loyal to her master Darth Krayt. killing her previous master at his request and even going so far as to claim that she would "cut out her own heart" if he told her to. Talon also trained Cade Skywalker as a sith at Krayt's command despite what she was told by the force. he later turned to the jedi (don't use this to bring us back to that one point about sith loyalty. i don't know much about Cade. so don't ask me about him either) and Talon was tasked with the job of locating Cade and bringing him back alive to Krayt, who wanted him for his rare healing abilities. ok. i'm going off track. i'm gonna stop right here. Darth Talon uses Ataru. ok. now i'm done:) if ya wanna know more read the wookieepedia article! Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-23652401709757352922012-08-26T20:26:35.156-07:002012-08-26T20:26:35.156-07:00Vapaad and Ataru are pretty cool, but my favorites...Vapaad and Ataru are pretty cool, but my favorites are Djem So and Jar Kai. <br /><br />I know next to nothing about Darth Talon =P Who was she?Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-9786184549517612202012-08-24T08:30:40.258-07:002012-08-24T08:30:40.258-07:001. yeah. dunno if his armor is spikey but that'...1. yeah. dunno if his armor is spikey but that's his name. i haven't read anything about darth krayt, so basically when it comes to him i know (next to ) nothing. but i could tell you quite a bit about Darth Talon :) *i <3 twi'leks!!!!!* (random fact: i like Vapaad and Ataru! they're some of the awesomest lightsaber forms out there!)<br /><br />2. well, the emperor was a sith and he ruled the galaxy ... for a while, anyway...<br /><br />3. :)<br /><br />4. part grey. not completely grey. Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-57557421398451458822012-08-23T21:01:34.564-07:002012-08-23T21:01:34.564-07:002. I think I've heard about that group. Wasn&...2. I think I've heard about that group. Wasn't its leader Darth Krayt or something? The guy with the spikey armor? I think I remember not liking him because he was originally A'sharad Hett...but my memory is a little fuzzy. I like A'sharad Hett because he's one of the few Jedi that consistently uses Jar'Kai (one of my favorite lightsaber forms)<br /><br />3. *cough* From a certain point of view<br /><br />4. Will do... I'm not sure what I said earlier =P<br /><br />7. Qui-Gon Jinn was always assumed to be a Grey Jedi. To paraphrase Obi-Wan, "He would have already been on the council if he had just followed the code." This comment and the one from the beginning of Episode I (where Jinn talks about the living force) identifies him as at least being part-grey.Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-85946953135300841802012-08-23T10:19:12.394-07:002012-08-23T10:19:12.394-07:001. i know, right!
2.k. in that case, i'd hav...1. i know, right! <br /><br />2.k. in that case, i'd have to agree with your original statement. the sith got "Darth Bane aka the stupidest sith ever". hence the reason why my character , Darth Talon, is from the One Sith. it's a huge group of sith that together can do more than Darth Bane and his apprentice Darth Zannah could ever do without the help of fellow sith. <br /><br />3. sith still rule...<br /><br />4. well, before i continue that point,i would like for us to be on the same page. so basically, read Hard Contact, and then we'll talk. (Edessa has done a commentary on it that you could read, assuming you haven't already) and hey, weren't you the one who said "not a word about how the clones betrayed the jedi. NOT. A. WORD." :)<br /><br />5. i'll have to try that sometime.<br /><br />6. yeah. yoda scares me.<br /><br />7. so your saying that Qui Gon Jinn was half corrupted/crazy and/or a grey jedi?<br /><br />Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-67747741896865392632012-08-22T20:37:03.053-07:002012-08-22T20:37:03.053-07:001. Sounds like Frankenstein...
2. by "in-uni...1. Sounds like Frankenstein...<br /><br />2. by "in-universe" I mean, from the perspective of someone in the star wars universe. Instead of from the perspective of real life where we know that the good guys have to win.<br /><br />3. I highly dislike Orthodox Jedi for the same reasons you prefer the Sith. However, I dislike the Sith for the reasons I listed above. Thus, I've settled for a third option--grey jedi. <br /><br />4. Haha....I'm not big on Obi-Wan or Yoda either. About clones:<br /><br />4.5: Accepting the clone army was one of the best and worst things the Jedi order did. They did what was necessary to win the war, but those clones also became their downfall. If however, Sidious had been killed, then accepting the clone army would have been their greatest achievement in the clone wars. In war, you do what you need to to win. Including accepting a slave army. I totally realize and agree that the clones were in essence, slaves, and that's a bad thing. However, it was necessary to defeat the separatists. I would like to read the Republic Commando series, and I've had it recommended several times, but I haven't gotten to it yet...<br /><br />5. Yes--it's one of my favorite star wars series. Of course, it's one of the only star wars series I have, and I only have the first book. But it seems pretty good to me. It depends if you're interested in Post Galactic Civil War era books. <br /><br />6. Following my logic, Yoda was changed by the purge. In my opinion, he went a little crazy. When Luke meets him on dagobah, he seems a little...nutty. =P<br /><br />7. Orthodox Jedi don't cheat. Half-Corrupted/Crazy Jedi and Grey Jedi do.<br /><br />8. I haven't read the books either, but I've played the videogame and read a few wookieepedia articles. Buruknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-76065168904899214082012-08-22T10:36:40.603-07:002012-08-22T10:36:40.603-07:001. Dr. Zhivago.it's some movie. i have never s...1. Dr. Zhivago.it's some movie. i have never seen it but my mom has and she says that it's terrible. the movie ends with the main character walking off into the cold snowy night with his life completely destroyed. his enemies beat him. i'm still trying to figure out what would drive somebody to make that movie...<br /><br />2. depends on what you mean by and "in-universe standpoint". but just so you know, i never said that jedi are completely powerless or anything. i like quite a few jedi actually. for instance, there's Aayla Secura, Satele Shan, Ahsoka Tano, Anakin Skywalker, Etain Tur Mukan, Bardan Jusik, and several others. that said, i had a discussion with Edessa a few weeks ago concerning the possibility of the whole one can't exist w/o the other thing. we finally concluded that yes it is true. nonetheless, i still prefer sith powers and even some of their beliefs over that of the jedi. <br /><br />3. agreed.<br /><br />4. i know that most people like jedi more but there are some instances where they get just downright annoying! like obi wan. seriously! can't the guy stop talking for all of five seconds?! and yoda. the accent is creative, granted, but it sure gets on a girl's nerves after a while. part of what bugs me about the jedi is that they just sit around being peaceful. now, there isn't anything wrong with peace but there never will be peace while they don't do anything. they seem to twist peace to the point of believing that ignorance is bliss. and, while i prefer not to get into all of this, you force me to. clones. they accepted a slave army. an army without a choice. made to die in a war, fighting for the republic even if they don't agree with it. before i read republic commando by karen traviss, i never thought about the clones. i simply knew that they existed and didn't even bother to think about them. but when i did read it, i was surprised. like i said, i accepted their existence but did not think about what that existence was like. i recommend that you try reading the first book: hard contact. because your username is in mando'a i take it that you like mandolorians. if it will help persuade you, there are a lot of mandos in the series. <br /><br />5. just out of curiosity: is it a good series so far? <br /><br />6. i suppose. but following your logic, you would agree that yoda was a grey jedi? didn't seem so to me when luke meets him on dagobah. <br /><br />7. yeah. but it looks to me like in your original comment, that you don't believe that jedi cheat. jussayin...<br /><br />8. FYI ya know how i mentioned starkiller, but then didn't know who you meant when you said galen marek? well, i haven't exactly read the force unleashed. i read the comic book. and didn't really get it anyway. so that's just an explanation. in case you were wondering. Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-204470400647696102012-08-21T17:52:26.021-07:002012-08-21T17:52:26.021-07:002. From a certain point of view, the Jedi are awes...2. From a certain point of view, the Jedi are awesome because they choose not to use those powers. However, I concede that most Sith have access to more powers than Jedi. *cough* Dr. who? =P Arguing from a real-life standpoint, it's easy to see why the Sith haven't completely destroyed the Jedi order. But I was more or less debating from an in-universe standpoint.<br /><br />2.5. So from an in-universe standpoint, why haven't the Sith completely destroyed the Jedi order? They've almost done it once or twice, but never completely succeeded. This is a quote from Tionne Solusar (Jedi Archivist):<br /><br />"Although this historic record may lack objectivity, I do not intend to glorify the Jedi or vilify the Sith, but to present a cohesive account of our origins and encounters, and illustrate our similarities and differences. Our histories are not separate but dangerously entwined, like two branches on a tree that threaten to break each other in their respective attempts to embrace sunlight and shadow. Some have speculated whether the Jedi and Sith can even exist without the other, and most doubt that there will ever be a peaceful resolution to their eternal conflict."<br /><br />Perhaps neither can exist without the other?<br /><br />3. Everything is relative =P<br /><br />4. I'm not entirely sure how you're arguing. Your example proves that you can't take something out of context. I was saying that the Jedi (in general) are likeable. If you want me to supply numerous examples with context, I can. I wasn't taking just one example and generalizing it.<br /><br />5. I was surprised--I haven't finished the Legacy of the Force series, so I'm not entirely an expert on Darth Caedus.<br /><br />6. When the Empire struck, I believe that most Jedi adopted a grey persona. When desperate times call for desperate measures, I think that the Jedi who survived did so because they were lucky, or because they were willing to leave the rigid orthodox path of traditional Jedi. Kina Ha was by no means a "real" grey Jedi, but I think that the fall of the order corrupted her to an extent.<br /><br />7. ... I'm pretty sure that I acknowledged that he was cheating in my above point#7. I'm just saying that it was good that he cheated.<br /><br />8. No problem--I love a good debate too.Buruk the Jedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-15914581284248134232012-08-21T08:44:45.667-07:002012-08-21T08:44:45.667-07:001. oh. yeah. i knew that. *grins sheepishly*
2. d...1. oh. yeah. i knew that. *grins sheepishly*<br /><br />2. does it matter if all of it can be used in battle? it's just the fact that they can do it. that's why they're awesome. and sith can block jedi powers too, ya know. (why do i have to repeat myself?) the only reason the sith haven't completely destroyed the jedi order is because everyone watching the movies would want their money back. i mean, who likes Dr. Zhivago? <br /><br />3. keywords: from a certain point of view. *dislikes obi wan*<br /><br />4. yeah well, ya can't generalize everything. there is a quote from Kal Skirata (one of the mando rc trainers in case you didn't already know)where he reveals the fact that he would rather be with the imperials instead of the republic. he says that the only reason he is staying with the GAR is because of his adopted clone sons. <br /><br />5. before, you said that if i found a sith who force severed something that you would be surprised. yet in this comment you say that Darth Caedus used it against Ben Skywalker. seems kinda contradictory to me.<br /><br />6. i have read about Kina Ha and so far have found no evidence suggesting that she is a grey jedi. have you?<br /><br />7. my point is that he still cheated. and maybe if he had left anakin on tatooine this whole problem with palpatine and all wouldn't have happened. like you said, who knows? don't get me wrong tho. i like anakin. i think that he is extremely epic :)<br /><br />8. btw thanks for humoring me on this whole thing! i love a good debate and it's really hard to find someone who's good at it to debate with around here!<br /> Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-12974039956003227062012-08-20T21:38:39.543-07:002012-08-20T21:38:39.543-07:001. Galen Marek = Starkiller
2. My point is that t...1. Galen Marek = Starkiller<br /><br />2. My point is that the Sith having a wider range of powers is nulled by the fact that they can be cancelled. Furthermore, a lot of their powers like the ones that mutate beasts and stuff take time and concentration, and you can't really use them in the middle of a battle.<br /><br />3. The original Sith Lords were exiled Jedi. Their roots are within the Jedi, so from a certain point of view (*loves Obi-Wan*), you cannot be a TRUE Sith without first having been a Jedi.<br /><br />4. I was speaking in general terms, not of the whole galxy..."Only a Sith deals in absolutes." *grins*<br /><br />5. Force Sever: <br /><br />Nomi Sunrider against Ulic Qel-Droma<br /><br />Darth Caedus against Ben Skywalker<br /><br />And many more practicioners, including Vodo-Siosk Baas, Kyle Katarn, Odan-Urr, Ooroo, Vergere, need I go on?<br /><br />6. Aha. Now we come to the difference between Jedi and Grey Jedi. I consider myself a Grey Jedi. In order that I don't have to explain our whole philosophy to you, I suggest you look up the wookieepedia article for Grey Jedi. Also, you might check out the Jensaari, who are pretty cool. <br /><br />7. About Sabaac. I believe my original statement was "If you have to cheat to win at Sabaac, why do you play at all?" This is under the impression that you're playing to have fun. Qui-Gon was dealing with the fate of the galaxy (who knows what would have happened if he had left Anakin on Tatooine?), so he was perfectly justified in cheating.<br /><br />*grins*Buruk the Grey Jedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-92142233233920166912012-08-19T16:53:40.514-07:002012-08-19T16:53:40.514-07:001. no idea who that is, but i'll give you that...1. no idea who that is, but i'll give you that one. however those powers are pretty much limited to the sith. 2. you forgot one little thing: it works both ways. a sith can block a jedi's attacks and vice versa. 3. so? there are sith who have always been sith who have turned to the jedi. k here's the thing: after i posted that comment, i asked my older sister, Edessa, if she could think of one. she could. Starkiller. tho he was never made an "official" jedi, he still quit the sith order and began studying under a jedi master. read about it in the book The Force Unleashed. 4. not true. jedi are generally more easy to get along with, but i could rattle off quite a few people other than sith who hate jedi. i will save you the time by not doing that. plus, there are more than a few people in the galaxy who regard the jedi as baby snatchers. that one point though, about more guts and less midichlorians, not sure that that can be argued with. and for the record, that was just a random example i came up with off of the top of my head :) bout that force sever thing... care to explain? as in who does it when have they done it and so on. the sith may not have some huge temple but they do more than just sit around all day and occasionally scaring someone silly. they have temples and the like too. and research can't do everything. you have to act on what you have discovered too. a point that seems lost on the jedi. fyi. i made a small mistake. the game wasn't sabaac, it was pazaak. but it's still cheating. i don't own the book, i'm not sure if the library has it. and i don't even remember if it was in Order 66 or 501st Legion. but the jedi i referred to is a Kaminoan jedi named Kina Ha. She escaped order 66 and was on the run,temporarily staying at Kal Skirata's home Kyrimorut. she was playing with former jedi Bardan Jusik. but in case that cheating thing still won't convince you, here is an actual example of a jedi cheating in the movie the Phantom Menace. remember how Qui Gon Jinn and Watto were rolling that chance cube to decide if Jinn would get Anikin or Shmi if he won the podrace? Qui Gon Jinn used the force to move the cube the way he wanted it to turn out. now i will sit back, relax, and enjoy watching you trying to deny that irrefutable fact! :) <br />Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-1843867502652097022012-08-19T00:51:13.287-07:002012-08-19T00:51:13.287-07:001. There are Jedi known to use Dark Side powers. ...1. There are Jedi known to use Dark Side powers. Namely, Galen Marek. <br />2. Jedi can counter Sith powers easily, like Yoda did with force lightning.<br />3. It's not fair to restrict the whole Sith conversion thing to people who have never been a Jedi. Why? Because pretty much every force user turns to the Jedi order to learn to use the force. Children are given to the Jedi Order at a young age. The majority of force users were at one time Jedi<br />4. About the whole force army point:<br /><br />I would totally pick the Jedi. Even if the Sith clones are completely loyal to you, they still don't play nice with others. Let's face it, you can't win a war with just Jedi. Thats why the Jedi were wiped out in the purge, even though they were more powerful. That's why Jedi don't rule the galaxy. And that's also why the Sith have an alliance with the Mandalorians. To win a war, you need people like Han Solo, Wedge Antilles, Captain Rex, and the others. You need normal people with more guts than medichlorians, and a trusty blaster at their side.<br /><br />If you had an army of Sith, no one would join you. You would be a ruthless force that everyone hated and no one would want to join. You wouldn't get credits from senators like Mon Mothma, you wouldn't get the Corellians to build you starships. On the other hand, if you had a Jedi army, people would want to help. Just because you trust your Sith army doesn't mean that the galaxy trusts your Sith army. People are too smart to trust the dark side. <br /><br />For the record, Jedi have awesome abilities too. Like Force Sever. If you can find me a Sith who did that, I'll be surprised. The Jedi have powers that can rock the world, but they choose not to use them. If it were necessary however, I believe that the Jedi could unveal some pretty awesome powers. Think about it. The Sith sit off in their corner of the universe doing who knows what. The Jedi have a temple in the center of the galaxy with all the resources they could imagine. Who's going to do more research? Answer? THE JEDI. In the millions of years of being the dominant force side, they've uncovered more than the Sith do sulking in the dark.<br /><br />...if you could look up that quote and tell me what Jedi claimed to be cheating, I might concede to that point. But I'll bet he's a dark/grey jedi...Buruk the Jedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-11063343924905249802012-08-16T09:28:10.528-07:002012-08-16T09:28:10.528-07:00oh and fyi: jedi cheat at sabacc too. the followin...oh and fyi: jedi cheat at sabacc too. the following quotes are taken from karen traviss' series republic commando. they may not be exact(i don't have the book with me) but here's the gist:<br />"it's so nice that we can sit around a table and cheat at cards."<br />"i'm not cheating!"<br />"no, but i am."<br />that is a jedi admitting to cheating right there. i am finding more and more reasons to dislike jedi every day, how bout you?Darth Talonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4600874110592670845.post-55569201277611859432012-08-15T08:16:43.758-07:002012-08-15T08:16:43.758-07:00my arguments are mostly ability oriented. here'...my arguments are mostly ability oriented. here's the thing, if you had the chance to read my answers to the sith only q's (which you didn't because Edessa had a few problems getting it up there so it isn't there:)then you would see that i believe that the sith have the advantage cause they can do whatever a jedi can plus some. i mean, if you watch the movies you'll notice that if say Yoda does something with the force, somewhere in star wars a sith does the same move. sith can also do things like force lightning and a force choke that jedi can't.(ok so they can do it but they don't) so basically, if you were making an army comprised of clones of force users, jedi or sith, which one would you choose if you wanted to win a war? if both were completely and totally loyal to you, i mean. sith is the obvious answer. oh and sith are loyal to their order. unlike jedi. come on, can you name off a sith or two that turned to the light side (if they were never a jedi. so if your gonna say vader, think of another. he was originally a jedi. that's what he grew up with.) i can't think of any. and how many jedi turned to the dark side? over twenty at least. people like count dooku left the jedi in favor of the sith. not as loyal as ya thought huh? 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